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The "Peaceful" Verse

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Say what??

Muslims and their apologists have a favorite verse that they shout every time Islam is called non peaceful.  Even President Bush quoted it when he hosted a Ramadan dinner in 2005:



 

"..killing an innocent human being is like killing all of humanity, and saving the life of one person is like saving all of humanity."  


 

What they don’t tell you, and for the most part they don’t know,  is that the verse is from the Jerusalem Talmud. The Talmud is not supposed to be from God, but the writings of ancient rabbis. Why would God (Allah) quote humans?:


 

"Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world." Jerusalem Talmud Sanhedrin 4:1 (22a)


 

What they also don’t tell you is that the Islamic version of the plagiarized Jewish verse also has a disclaimer that NO MUSLIM ever quotes.  The verse was given to the Jews after Cain killed Abel. Three translators are shown in the event that the usual accusations of having a bad translation are cited.  The exact quote from the Koran goes like this:


 

  •  "On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. YusufAli 5:32
  • "For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Pickthal 5:32
  • " For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men. "  Shakir 5:32



Notice the disclaimer: UNLESS FOR MURDER OR MAKING MISCHIEF IN THE LAND.  How can they claim that Osama Bin Ladin and any other Islamic terrorist is not Muslim because he killed innocents and Islam does not allow that?  The Koran has NO VERSE saying not to kill innocents, and the only verse they refer to showing how peaceful Islam is, actually says it is OK to kill people if they have created mischief in the land of Muslims.   Don’t most Muslims, and particularly Islamic terrorists believe that westerners have created mischief in Palestine, Afghanistan, any other predominantly Muslim land that is in chaos?


 

That may be my interpretation, right? The Koran does not specifically say its OK for mortals to kill those who they perceive to have committed crimes, right? WRONG.


 

The verse right after the “peaceful verse” elaborates on what is to be done to those who do murder and create mischief in the land:



  • "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter." YusufAli 5:33

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom." Pickhal 5:33

 

  • "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement." Shakir 5:33

  


It seems that when one can find the very rare Koranic verses that condone peace and  niceties, they are followed by many that condone punishment, violence, and revenge.




 

Muslims also claim that Islam forbids suicide. This is explored in the Jihad section of this website, but is so important that I will repeat it here. The verse they use is this:

  • "O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!"   YusufAli (4:29)
  • "O ye who believe! Squander not your wealth among yourselves in vanity, except it be a trade by mutual consent, and kill not one another. Lo! Allah is ever Merciful unto you."   Pickthal (4:29)
  • "O you who believe! do not devour your property among yourselves falsely, except that it be trading by your mutual consent; and do not kill your people; surely Allah is Merciful to you. "  Shakir (4:29)
  • "O ye who believe! Squander not your wealth among yourselves in vanity, except it be a trade by mutual consent, and kill not one another. Lo! Allah is ever Merciful unto you."   Pickthal (4:29)
  • "O you who believe! do not devour your property among yourselves falsely, except that it be trading by your mutual consent; and do not kill your people; surely Allah is Merciful to you. "  Shakir (4:29)

Killing oneselves indicates killing other Muslims.  They are precluded from killing other Muslims, not from suicide. Martydrom, as shown in more detail in the JIHAD section, is encouraged and rewarded.